35. Waphendula uPilato wathi, Kanene, mna ndingumYuda na? Luhlanga lwakowenu nababingeleli abakhulu abakunikeleyo kum; wenzé ntoni na?
36. Waphendula uYesu wathi, Ubukumkani bam asibubo obeli hlabathi; ukuba bebububo obeli hlabathi ubukumkani bam, amakhonza am ange ezama, ukuze ndinganikelwa kumaYuda; ngoku ke ubukumkani bam asibobalapha.
37. Wathi ke uPilato kuye, Hina ke, ungukumkani na wena? Waphendula uYesu wathi, Nawe uthi ndingukumkani. Mna ndizalelwe oku; ndizele oku ehlabathini, ukuze ndiyingqinele inyaniso. Bonke abangabenyaniso bayaliva ilizwi lam.
38. Athi uPilato kuye, Yintoni na yona inyaniso?Akuba etshilo, wabuya waphuma waya kumaYuda, athi kuwo, Mna andifumani nalinye ityala kuye.
39. Ke kaloku ninesiko lokuba ndinikhululele abe mnye ngepasika; ninga ke ndinganikhululela uKumkani wamaYuda na?
40. Babuya ngoko bonke bankqangaza, besithi, Mayingabi ngulo, mayibe nguBharabhas. Waye ke uBharabhas lo esisihange.